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when bill clinton was running for president before and it didn't happen. our tax rates were higher and the world did not implode. >> bill clinton cut spending. >> bill clinton did cut spending. >> that's correct. >> bill clinton was worried about deficits. be obama is increasing spending. he wants tax credits and spending subsidies. >> this is not what with tax cuts to higher people -- >> i will ask you about when he talks about energy he is not talking about fraking or shale. he is talking about more green energy spending. that's the difference between him and clinton. >> appreciate that. what i'm saying is if you don't like the same as it ever was, let's have a conversation about the bush years if we are going to talk about what worked and didn't work, bush's policies did not work. if you don't believe me, look at the 4.5 million jobs. >> what do you mean? >> 2008 until january 2009, we lost 4.5 million jobs. >> do you know over the same time span that bush created more jobs. the bush recovery created more jobs than the obama -- >> what was -- >> even though the recession was muc
, the man who served as secretary for bill clinton. robert reich. and grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. we're coming right back. >>> welcome back. something that very possibly could come up tonight is governor romney floating the idea of capping tax deductions at $17,000. would that effectively be a tax increase? and would it work to bring down the deficit? with us now robert reich who served as labor secretary under bill clinton and grover nor qui quist. >> he's made that commitment as has paul ryan and certainly the vast majority of republicans in the house. which is a commitment not to raise overall taxes. romney's committed to cutting all tax rates at least 20%. ryan and the house republicans want to go to a top rate of 25% corporate and individual. romney's made it clear. any changes are in the context of keeping overall taxes from going up and making sure the middle class doesn't get hit request higher taxes. it's not a tax increase, he's made that clear. >> mr. secretary, a lot of discussion about whether or not the wealthy or the middle class familie
four years, given what he was handed in this, when you heard bill clinton say that, bill clinton has not said that before. >> i could have done better. you could have done better. i think anybody who wasn't ideologically driven could have done better. >> what would you have done? >> sorry? >> the meaningful steps. >> what wouldn't you have done. >> we need jobs so therefore -- and we need exports so therefore the first thing you do is have the nlrb attack the number one exporter in the country on really preposterous grounds, then you in effect start yelling at business and threatening business and then you get on the tv and talk about las vegas and all of a sudden the hotel business dies. i mean, the answer is that we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement not discouragement and until that scenario changes i think the united states is quote/unquote, i hate to use this word, in a malaise. >> is that a function of new laws and legislation or a function of rhetoric? >> first of all it's both, okay, in other words, we hope that it's new laws. the reality is, it isn't new l
given bill clinton's speech and given the bump in the polls and the right track/wrong track stuff has improved. people have sort of come around to thinking that maybe it was a tough four years for anyone. can romney ever make the case that it is still a really bad economy that we're under? this is the worst recession. can he make it without looking nasty? >> i think he's got to make it. i think he's got to get people to look down the road and see the train wreck that's coming. >> not the one we've already had. >> 1.1 trillion in deficits racking up every year. we can run about 200 and keep the debt of gdp constant. which means we have a $900 billion tax increase coming. there's only about $1 trillion of income taxes. these are enormous tax increases that have to come. the president has fought every spending cut that's come along. he has a little bit, $50 billion from seniors and obama care to pay for some of obama care, but the rest of it will have to be covered by cost reduction, which he's fought every step of the way for taxes. >> i wonder, howard, can you -- is it possible to win
measure. we read your progress in the 23 million jobs created under bill clinton when the average american family felt income go up by 7,500 instead of down 2,000 like george w. bush. that that's the standard he set. he's a failure, the family income has gone down $4,000 in 3 1/2 years under obama compared to $2,000 under george w. in eight years. >> because of that family income, that's not a made up number, that's a government number. i think both of these guys should be looking for permanent middle class tax cuts. permanent middle class tax cuts so that take-home pay will go up. i'll give you the last word. >> i found myself strangely agreeing with your plan to cut the middle class and take away the deductions and keep tax rates for people who make a lot of money like you and i fairly high. i think that makes abundant good sense. but we're forgetting one thing. the biggest challenge may be even more than anything is our debt and our deficit. and i think with governor romney and paul ryan figured out was they can't give $5 trillion worth of tax cuts and still eat into the deficit, which
on the board of cisco and ceo john chambers recently said whoever wins this election should govern like bill clinton as he spoke about clinton's effectiveness. what's going on from your view sitting on the board of cisco, having the experience that you've had at yahoo! tell me how you see the environment changes and where specifically you would expect growth to happen in technology in the next five years. >> well, i think technology in general -- probably the biggest challenge is not so much the social interactions but everybody's talking so much about data. data is very, very hard to mine correctly. so i think you're going to see a push back towards a lot of enterprise apps that really figure out how it get information to the companies so they can actually be more personalized for the user, but easy to say, a lot to do. >> and really quick, on what you're seeing out there, how tough is europe right now for technology? what are you seeing in terms of the global slow down? >> well, europe continues to baffle us in general in technology. it looks like it's getting softer, not stronger. you kno
, here is a guy with a splend it baid backgrounn bill clinton said that. why is he unable to connect on the key issue of the day, jobs and the economy with i'm going to say the average person out there? what is missing? >> he is superbly skilled at the details but that's not what americans care about. so keith wants to talk about details because that's a terrible strategy. he doesn't care about the details of tax reform. americans want to know how am i going to get a job? why is it i've been in a job for three years and i haven't gotten a raise. he needs to get away from the details and -- >> hang with me. just what can we expect to hear from mitt romney in tonight's debate? who better to ask than senior campaign manager kevin madden. thank you very much for helping us. you know, my friend keith boykin asked a very good question that's going to come up tonight or is likely to come tonight and that is president obama will charge that mitt romney is four more years of george w. bush. how does romney get o from under the bush mantle? you know it's going to happen. obama is going to say
. first he's got to find a way to dent the argument that bill clinton and barack obama made at the democratic convention about how president obama's done as well as anyone could do in turning the economy around the last four years. secondly, he's got to make a positive case with passion, with credibility for his own economic plans, for how he's going to make life better for 100% of americans. third, he's going to have to deal with that 47% video which has really taken a toll on his campaign. he's got to do all those things at the same time. we've seen the history of debates, tyler. it is not easy to fundamentally turn a race around but we have seen from our nbc/"wall street journal" poll that he's within three points nationally. still possible for him to win. got get going down. >> amman, there is some buzz about a plan that romney hs apparently floated for basically a $17,000 cap on tax deductions for americans. explain it. you've crunched the number. what's the headline here? >> tyler, the headline here is that the romney campaign e-mailed me this morning on this. they say
an incumbent with the safe pick, they've lost. >> bill clinton was not a safe pick. >> compared to -- >> he was not a safe pick. i'm saying you're right. he's a prime example of what you're talking about. >> bob dole was, john kerry was. >> right. >> and bill was swinging for the fences. he's just a dangerous dude. i like him now, but he is not a safe -- you never know what -- >> he's not safe. >> he's still not safe. >> you're absolutely right. but again, look at the safety guys. and they run a respectable race. but they rarely win. >> you're still a republican even though you have -- yes, where's your mike? oh, you got it, good. even though you have -- you're in business now and have a lot of clients on both sides of the aisle. and i understand that. i would assume with what you view, you're going to be disappointed in the way the government is run over the next four years. country's resilient. everything going to be okay for the next four years? >> well, i think that we need more seriousness in washington. i think we're much too bumper sticker oriented. i think there's way too much polit
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